Saturday, April 7, 2007

Born on the 16th of July!

Joe Martz -

You Rock! You go guy!
The good Doctor was getting on a Southwest Airlines flight in Albuquerque when We recognized the face of this man. We had seen his picture on LANL news stories and We had met him "socially" once, so it took Us two looks to realize who We'd just seen. We were flying to the Bay Area for personal reasons (no, We weren't interviewing with Google Labs but maybe We should have been!) so We didn't think much of it.

The next day, Our hostess handed me the SF Chronicle and by golly, larger than life, there was Smiling Joe leaning up against a bomb case, looking all serious and competent and hopeful and dire at the same time! And what did he have to say?

RRW is the route to nuclear disarmament!

Unfortunately, the Doctor was taking a nap under a tree, at least so far as the LTCS blog goes... We entirely missed the piece contributed by (now) old-time Weapons Design Physicist John Pedicini... and the link and discussion of Joe Martz's interviews.

Martz was called a "used car salesman" by at least one anonymous commentor. Oddly, Our "social contact" with Joe was a test drive in his Dodge Diesel Truck We were considering buying. He was a good salesman up to a point. His Truck was immaculate, he knew every detail about it, and he politely but firmly gave me hints about precisely how to drive this 4x4, manual transmission diesel. We would have bought it except for one little thing... it was too well taken care of, it was too nice, and We didn't have the heart to offer him less than he was asking, only so We could take it out and ding it up, overheat the turbo, let the oil go an extra thousand between changes, pick up a dozen cracks in the windshield, haul rocks, manure, trash, firewood in it, etc. *as we are wont to do!*

The good Doctor came to LANL as a veritable youth... a vegetarian, a pacifist in most ways, but We believed in MAD (mutually assured destruction)... the logic was just too hard to avoid... *somebody* was going to have the biggest stick, it might as well be us.

(bwahahahaha..haaaa....!)


We didn't come to develop or maintain or test or even play with nuclear weapons. We did come to play with high-energy systems, with ultra-scale, mega-giga-hyper accelerators. We came to play with these new things called computers.

But We also thought that Nukes were a necessary evil, at worst. We also thought that real pacifists (those who would risk being subject to violence in the cause of peace) were ignorant goofballs. We also thought that Science would outpace the horrid uses that mere Plebes (non-scientists) found for it... that We, the Anointed, could come up with a an anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-missile for every anti-anti-anti-anti-missile crafted to beat the anti-anti-anti-missile crafted to beat the anti-anti.... you get the picture. We learned our Science-ethics from Comic Book and Science Fiction heroes (and total losers like Ayn Rand and Robert Heinlein ... sorry Libertarian friends... La-oosers! Get over it, We did).




We believed in the innate good of Science and when confronted with all of the Bad Uses of Science on the planet, over history, We retreated meekly behind "science is nuetral". But deep in our twisted, dark little heart was the belief that "Science is Good!" I fear that our young Doctor Martz (he was 41 at the time of his interview last month) is still in the thrall of this concept, but I completely understand it... and it might very well be the "lesser of evils" here. To hear a serious player in the development of nuclear weapons stand up publicly for a long-term plan of disarmament is unprecedented.

You go Joe! (oh... and you too John... )

- the Doctor of Love and Strangeness

5 comments:

Brad Lee Holian said...

Originally posted after a comment by Doc on "LANL: The REST of the Story", but it should be good here, too:

I've talked personally, and in considerable depth about RRW and the Lab and life in general, with both Martz and Pedicini. They are honorable men, and I, too, have my sincere doubts about Livermore bomb designers. Politically, Martz and I are somewhat closer to the old Oppenheimer school, but Pedicini and I share some Libertarian attitudes, even though he claims that we are WAY far apart politically. I like to think of politics as a circle, and sometimes people like Pedicini and I back up slowly and ... run into each other's ass, having passed as far as we can get from Stalin and Hitler (who also bumped into each other's ass, as you can recall from your history books).

I suspect that the good Doctor and Joe and I ... and even guys like John, who use their "Right" brains in patriotic defense of our country, could have a civil beer together. And for this reason, and the fact that Doug Roberts and I have drunk many a beer together, I am not so completely pessimistic that there are still some people at LANL who are not, as Pat, the Dog called them, "sheeple." -Though I still carry about in my mind the "1984" image of the LANL staff posted by Pat on the intermediate blog.

--Brad

P.S. Doc: You can identify yourself to me; I am an old LANL guy who knows how to keep a secret. The prize is that I'll buy you a good beer -- no Bud Lite.

Dr. Strangelove said...

Brad -

Fact is, while I've not had a beer with any of you (Joe, John, you...not to mention Doug) I have, in fact met each of you at least once (Joe on a test drive) and you would probably recognize me instantly, you might even know my name.

My Z# is in the 5 figures which is getting extremely rare these days. I surely will reveal my "true name" to you at some opportune moment. I have to admit, however, I'm feeling great license in my psuedonymity, it is downright heady! It beats the living fluff out of anonymity. I posted to Doug's blog both anonymously and under my "true name" (reference to Vernor Vinge).

If you check out my revised "gone nuclear" post at the top of my blog, you will see that I'm moderately astute about tracking traffic and know that while "big stupid" is truly stupid, not all of his minions are... hell, sometimes I'm one of his minions!

So, yes, I trust you implicitly as I trust my own ability to dance out of the way or duck under the professional-wrestler-like grasp of Big Stupid (or head-butt any one or three of his minions who take me on in a frontal assault) but for the moment, I'm having too much fun with this Masque'd Ball to lift the veil just yet.

A hint to you... Your wife and I crossed paths Thursday and while she recognized me from the deep, dark past, I know she didn't know I was the Strange, Lurking Doctor of Love, and most likely my name even eluded her.

Frankly "politics bore me" but the current tides of national and global politics shift my sympathies to the liberal and progressive and green. I respect the abilities and scientific record of yourself, Martz and Pedicini and respect your individual and collective bravery in speaking out loud and clear.

I feel an accretion disk forming, or for the philistines reading this here, perhaps, a snowball rolling downhill.

I have no idea who is in it's path.

- StrangeOmatic

Dr. Strangelove said...

By the way, Brad *and* John... my reference to Libertarian "La-oosers" was not a direct reference to either of you.

My sociopolitical sympathies fit right square in the centroid of Libertarian ideals in 47 of the 63 dimensions I'm familiar with, but the fact is, most self-avowed, self-identified Libertarians irritate the piss out of me. They tend toward arrogant, unsympathetic jerks. I know because I used to be one (maybe I still am...)

Ben Franklin once made notice of the fact that people tend to form factions for the moment and then reform them as the issues change. And as long as the town, the Laboratory and the sanctity of science are under attack, I'm pretty sure everyone referenced in these comments are in the same factions.

I'll buy the first round!

- Strange

Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha!

Born on the 16th of July.

Is that a reference to that Tom Cruise movie about the patriotic soldier "Born on the 4th of July"?

July 16, 1945 was the date of the testing of the first atomic bomb at Trinity Site, right?

Looking at your profile Doc, it looks like that is also your birthday! Any coincidence? Born or concieved on that day? Your parents maybe got a little to close to the Trinitite?

Ha ha ha!

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